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小区稳定是大事,和谐生活多美好!

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发表于 2007-9-19 19:54 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
小区稳定是大事,和谐生活多美好!

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 楼主| 发表于 2007-9-19 20:23 | 显示全部楼层
小区稳定是大事,和谐生活多美好!
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-9-19 20:42 | 显示全部楼层
小区稳定是大事,和谐生活多美好!

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 楼主| 发表于 2007-9-19 20:54 | 显示全部楼层
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,业主委员会戴传喜发布的《告业主意见书》中第四条说:为什么要选择金成物业公司来小区服务?中说西房公司撤退,小区不能出现管理真空,业委会曾经制定了一个得到房管局认可的应急方案:在现有物业突然撤出小区后,可以由当初竟标时得票数排名第二的物业公司进驻小区,在价格,服务条款不变的的前提下,临时开展业务,。。。。。。。。。。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span></font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">本人想问为什么既然是由金城物业管理,那为什么现在的保安,保洁,管理员都还是原来西房的工作人员呢!我们看到的只是保安换来金城的制服而已!物业还是由西房的主任负责!具本人所知其中是有内幕的!现在暂时不公布!</span></p>
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-9-19 21:07 | 显示全部楼层
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.75pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">6</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,业主委员会戴传喜发布的《告业主意见书》中说:关于西房公司遗留问题的处理,西房公司遗留的问题主要有几个:公共能耗费拖欠(业委会为避免小区停水停电,已经用公共经营收入先行垫支,以后再和西房清算),多收的物管费及部分业主的</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">90</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">。</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">元未退,物业手续没有移交等。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">本人还是要说从</span><chsdate wst="on" isrocdate="False" islunardate="False" day="14" month="8" year="2007"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">8</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">月</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">14</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">日</span></chsdate><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">谈判到</span><chsdate wst="on" isrocdate="False" islunardate="False" day="31" month="8" year="2007"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">8</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">月</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">31</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">日</span></chsdate><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">西房撤退!一共有</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">17</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">天时间,为什么你不负责任的去审查西房是否拖欠公共能耗费的问题呢?我想</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">17</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">天的时间足够你去做这个工作了!可是你没有这样做!你的失职和不负责任和无能,导致西房一直到现在拖欠公共能耗费</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">10</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">多万元!从而差点导致停水停电的问题出现!给业主带来严重的威胁!所以在这个问题上你也是失职的!现在用业主的公共能耗费去垫付,那等于是让业主的钱为西房买单!具查拖欠的公共能耗费有</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">10</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">多万!这个损失西房是最大责任者,但是作为监督物业公司的业主委员会负责人同样责任难逃!</span></p>
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-9-19 21:24 | 显示全部楼层
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.75pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">7</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,业主委员会戴传喜发布的《告业主意见书》中说关于在</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">16</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">幢设置公交车站问题</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">业委会最初知道的情况是:政府行为,道路拓宽,必须让步,涉及的只是花坛等征用土地的补偿,根本不知道有设立车站的问题。。。。。。。。。。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span></font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">本人经过询问得知拆迁赔偿有</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">10</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">几万,戴传喜说已经打入金城帐户,我在这里想问的是西房刚走,当初你和西房关系也是很好的!可是西房还不是卷款走了!为什么现在你对金城同样如此信任!你就不怕出现刚刚出现的公共经营收入收不回的事情么?以后如果金成同样出现像西房一样的问题你怎么负责!(根据杭州市房管局查证,戴传喜并非</span><chsdate wst="on" isrocdate="False" islunardate="False" day="16" month="1" year="902"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">16-1-902</font></span></chsdate><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的产权人,也就是说不是业主,根据国家法律规定,业主委员会委员必须是业主本人担任的!其中原因有两个,一是法律规定,我想任何人不能违反,二是如果委员出现失职腐败问题追究责任时候容易追回损失!因为有房产啊!也就是说房产具有担保作用!)</span></p>
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-9-19 22:09 | 显示全部楼层
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.75pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">8</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,业主委员会戴传喜发布的《告业主意见书》中说关于小区公共经营收入的问题中说小区公共经营收入,业委会通过公告,告示,说明等形式,多次在大门口进行过公开。最后一次专门公示,是去年</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">12</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">月</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">日。我们要求物业公司每半年公开一次,但是,西房物业公司总是应而不为,这也是业委会不满该公司,后来下决心把这笔收入控制到自己手里的重要原因。这笔收入目前有余额</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">13</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">万多元。业委会会议决定,在国家允许业委会开设公用帐户前,暂时以戴传喜的名义存入银行。日常开支都按照物业管理条列的规定和业委会全体会议决定。业委会将在近期把帐目全部公开,接受业主监督。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.75pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">本人认为既然说是每半年公布一次,那么最后一次公布是</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">12</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">月</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">日,现在已经是</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">9</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">月</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">19</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">日了早已经过了半年公布时间,为什么还不公布,</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">12</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">月</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">日到和西房合同到期是</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">月份时间也是半年时间,而且那时候西房合同已经到期,为什么不强令西房公布,自己的财务为什么也不公布!在西房没有公布财务的情况下,为什么也公布这个情况,合同期满西房的种种问题完全应该告示业主,这样业主才有信息对西房进行评价!对西房合同期内的种种问题隐瞒不报导致业主信息不灵,这个是导致续聘通过的原因之一!所以在这个问题上也要承担责任的!财务问题不光是公布,而且要进行审计。首先要查清楚西房两年半时间一共收取多少公共经营收入?</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">是业主委员会收回多少收入?</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">3</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,这些钱怎么保管和使用的?是否符合财务制度</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,没有收回的钱,责任谁来承担。根据本人不完全统计,本小区光会所出租收入如下:</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,一楼小超市出租,租金大概是</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">58000</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">元</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">/</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">年</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,二楼,业主委员会对面房租大概</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">3</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">万</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">/</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">年</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">3</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,二楼棋牌房出租大概</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">3</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">万</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">/</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">年</span><font face="Times New Roman"><br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span lang="EN-US">4</span></font><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,三楼王丹跳舞出租大概</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">3</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">万左右</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,三楼广告公司出租大概</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">万左右,</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">6</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">一楼干洗店出租大概</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">万</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">/</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">年,这里就有</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">21</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">万左右</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">/</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">年,那么两年半就应该有</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">50</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">万左右,这里不包括小区理发室出租(小区理发室出租没有经过公开招标是戴负责的没有公布过租金是多少)也不包括小区</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">34</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">部电梯的广告收入,现在又在没有经过业主同意的情况下在</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">16</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">幢和</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">17</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">幢设置了电梯视频广告!还有进小区设摊的收入。所以本小区公共经营收入应该不少于</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">60</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">万。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.75pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span></font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">这些钱现在收回多少?用掉的是怎么用的都要公告,必须接受审计,给业主造成的重大损失要追究责任!</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.75pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">综上所述,在西房进驻到西房撤走的两年半时间里,作为维护业主权益的业主委员会失职多多!并没有竟到应该竟的责任!在西房给业主造成的损失中负有不可推卸的责任!财务一直是戴传喜负责的!请问对西房的监督在哪里?本来业主委员会是维护业主权益的!监督物业减少业主风险的!可是现在看来现在业主委员会工作能力欠缺,软弱无能,失职。强烈要求公布财务,并进行审计并追究有关人员的责任!<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.75pt;"></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.75pt;"></p>
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-9-19 22:16 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2007-9-19 22:29 | 显示全部楼层
楼主所言句句有理!但是放在这里影响面太小,看到的业主不多。<br/><br/>建议采取其他方式告知广大业主。<br/><br/>而且我始终认为,小区现在的状况一定需要媒体及有关部门的介入,否则还是有不少业主对于现在自己所处的境况不以为然。<br/><br/>最后,衷心感谢你所作出的努力,我们将坚定的支持你的义举!<br/>
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发表于 2007-9-19 23:23 | 显示全部楼层
<p>支持一下</p>
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发表于 2007-9-20 08:29 | 显示全部楼层
我们将坚定的支持你的义举![em01]
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发表于 2007-9-20 08:42 | 显示全部楼层
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>业主同盟</i>在2007-9-19 21:24:00的发言:</b><br/><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.75pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">7</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">,业主委员会戴传喜发布的《告业主意见书》中说关于在</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">16</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">幢设置公交车站问题</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">业委会最初知道的情况是:政府行为,道路拓宽,必须让步,涉及的只是花坛等征用土地的补偿,根本不知道有设立车站的问题。。。。。。。。。。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span></font></span><font color="#ee3d11"><u><strong><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">本人经过询问得知拆迁赔偿有</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">10</font></span></strong></u></font><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font color="#ee3d11"><u><strong>几万,戴传喜说已经打入金城帐户,</strong></u></font>我在这里想问的是西房刚走,当初你和西房关系也是很好的!可是西房还不是卷款走了!为什么现在你对金城同样如此信任!你就不怕出现刚刚出现的公共经营收入收不回的事情么?以后如果金成同样出现像西房一样的问题你怎么负责!(根据杭州市房管局查证,戴传喜并非</span><chsdate year="902" month="1" day="16" islunardate="False" isrocdate="False" wst="on"></chsdate><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">16-1-902</font></span><chsdate></chsdate><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的产权人,也就是说不是业主,根据国家法律规定,业主委员会委员必须是业主本人担任的!其中原因有两个,一是法律规定,我想任何人不能违反,二是如果委员出现失职腐败问题追究责任时候容易追回损失!因为有房产啊!也就是说房产具有担保作用!)</span></p></div><p>凭社么要打入<font face="宋体">金成帐户,一个与广大业主无关的单位帐户,这是有目的的掠夺行为!要向有关部门反映.姓戴的,业委会不是有你的名字开的帐户吗,为社么要把这笔钱转移?<font color="#ee1111" size="5"><strong>头上三尺有神灵!</strong></font></font></p>
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发表于 2007-9-20 09:56 | 显示全部楼层
支持楼主。
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发表于 2007-9-20 10:54 | 显示全部楼层
我们应该控告老戴
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-9-20 11:50 | 显示全部楼层
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 20.65pt; mso-char-indent-count: 1.47;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">有规矩才有方圆,要想把小区搞好,物业管理非常重要!一定要选择优秀的物业公司,所以一定要全体业主投票公开选聘物业。西房物业从进驻到合同期满两年时间里问题是不断的,</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">绿化野草丛生,小区植物从来没有补种过,每年只有枯死没有增加,地面破损</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">幢楼前地面严重下沉破损,至今没有解决。物业管理成为收钱的管理。拖欠业主公共能耗费,还把业主公共经营收入占为己有。治安问题严重</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">16</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">幢曾经发生两次业主被杀事件。小区被盗自行车,电瓶车数量巨大。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">6</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">月小区监控被雷击损害,面对如此安全重大问题西房竟拖了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">20</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">多天。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">7</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">月</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">29</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">日,小区地下车库</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">辆轿车被人恶意划伤,这个是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">29</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">天前的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">6</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">月</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">30</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">日车辆被划事件的故技重演,更是去年春天</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">6</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">辆车子被划事件后的胆大妄为!期间,少量车辆被划事件屡次发生。这些事件,受害的我们业主,西房物业公司全部推卸责任。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></span></span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">本人想问的是两年时间这么多车被划怎么作为维护业主权益的业主委员会戴老怎么到现在才公布啊!以前是怎么处理的呢?难道就拿西房没办法么?请那么</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">16</font></span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">幢业主被杀事件中戴老你可是以业委会的名义出公告奖励了西房</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">5000</font></span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">元哦!有奖有罚才对!怎么奖罚不分呢!出现这么严重的划车事件你本因出公告对西房进行惩罚。所以说对西房问题的隐瞒和包庇也是导致西房得意妄行的原因之一。所以在这个问题上还是有责任的!</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><p></p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><chsdate wst="on" isrocdate="False" islunardate="False" day="21" month="7" year="2007"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">7</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">月</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">21</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">日</span></chsdate><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">。小区</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">13</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">幢</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">7</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">层以上住户家中电器,因电压突然升高被烧严重,西房没有积极主动协调处理。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">业主委员会戴传喜发布的《</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体;">告全体业主书</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">》中说:从</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">2005</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">年</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">月到</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">2007</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">年</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">月期间的公共经营收入,西房找一切理由拖延交给业主委员会。<u>新的合同签署后,西房故伎重演,企图继续挪用,屡次违反合同,甚至还欠我们不少滞纳金。</u></span><u><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt;"><p></p></span></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">本<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">人想问的是西房进驻到合同期满的两年时间里就没有挪用业主的公共经营收入么?事实情况是有的!西房一直挪用业主的公共经营收入,上面戴传喜发布的《</b></span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体;">告全体业主书</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">》中也证明了这一点,<u>企图继续挪用,</u>也就是说以前就挪用了!那么我就要问作为监督物业公司维护业主权益的业主委员会有没有监督责任,有没有维护好业主的权益,两年时间里一直让西房挪用我们的公共经营收入,是无能,软弱,还是有其他原因。</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt;"><p></p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.75pt;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">综上所述,在西房进驻到西房撤走的两年半时间里,作为维护业主权益的业主委员会失职多多!并没有竟到应该竟的责任!在西房给业主造成的损失中负有不可推卸的责任!财务一直是戴传喜负责的!请问对西房的监督在哪里?本来业主委员会是维护业主权益的!监督物业减少业主风险的!可是现在看来现在业主委员会工作能力欠缺,软弱无能,失职。强烈要求公布财务,并进行审计并追究有关人员的责任!</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt;"><p></p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; 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mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">室</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"><p></p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">欢迎业主来电来信反应情况</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"><p></p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">目前</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">文萃苑业主联谊会希望业主们能出主意想办法,共同创建美好家园!</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"><p></p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">现在需要做的事情是:第一建立完善的监督管理制度,完善的财务制度,首先是业主要有知情权和发言权,其次要有监督机制。第二要选出德才兼备的业主担任业主委员会委员。</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"><p></p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 27.55pt; mso-char-indent-count: 1.96;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">文萃苑业主联谊会寻求各位业主的支持,希望有识之士加入。现在各幢各单元诚寻业主联谊会联系人两名,愿意为业主做事情,出主意的请与本会联系!</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt;"><p></p></span></b></p>
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发表于 2007-9-21 11:13 | 显示全部楼层
<p>代表小区业主利益的业委会的声音为社么要由一个据说不是小区业主的人来发出,这里面到底有社么鬼?我们将关注.....</p>[em05]
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发表于 2007-9-21 21:57 | 显示全部楼层
<p>辛苦了.看来,业委会问题太多了,希望把该文贴在业委会公告旁边,不然因为业主不了解,都给业委会骗了.同时,应该不单单是戴先生有责任,主任及其他业委会成员也有责任,不然为什么他们不公开反对他们错误的做法.</p>
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发表于 2007-9-22 13:32 | 显示全部楼层
我们光在这里议论看来不行,谁能前头发起召开业主代表或业主大会,这样才能跟他们理论,不然他们业委会是不理会的。
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