这才是好贴！拼死吃河豚-----给业主委员会提意见

chestnut · 发表于 2007-3-18 20:57

昨天和今天，难得我有空，本来我说要到云顶看水的，他不肯，闷头在那里弄那个什么老什子的物管招标文件，害得我也不能和乡亲们团聚~~~郁闷

梦嫂抱抱!!! 慰问老梦!!!! 表太辛苦咯, 事情大家做, 一点点做[em23][em23][em23][em23]

f.jf · 发表于 2007-3-18 20:58

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用chestnut在2007-3-18 20:57:00的发言： <div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">昨天和今天，难得我有空，本来我说要到云顶看水的，他不肯，闷头在那里弄那个什么老什子的物管招标文件，害得我也不能和乡亲们团聚~~~郁闷</div>梦嫂抱抱!!! 慰问老梦!!!! 表太辛苦咯, 事情大家做, 一点点做[em23][em23][em23][em23]</div><img height="110" alt="" src="http://bbs.zjol.com.cn/UploadFace/109947_2006102220463065498.gif" width="110"/>梦嫂抱抱!!!

梦中云顶的老婆 · 发表于 2007-3-18 21:42

嘿嘿JJ表生气，我漂亮MM和帅哥都想抱抱~~~~[em01][em01][em01][em01][em04][em04][em04]

f.jf · 发表于 2007-3-18 21:43

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用梦中云顶的老婆在2007-3-18 21:42:00的发言： 嘿嘿JJ表生气，我漂亮MM和帅哥都想抱抱~~~~[em01][em01][em01][em01][em04][em04][em04]</div>偶也......[em02]

实事求是者 · 发表于 2007-3-19 09:09

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春华秋实 · 发表于 2007-3-19 09:48

综上所述，不说有没有做“实际工作”，也不说有没有“整体思考”，更不说是否在“推卸责任”，22个星期中，业委会委员们至少也“牺牲”了18个休息日吧！通常业委会是三个月开一次会，一个月开一次已经很难得的了。业委会的委员们都是自愿从事这项工作，你们有自己的理想和思想境界，感激的话俺就不多说了。不过提醒你们一句啊：希望不要影响到你们自己的工作和生活，尤其是家人的生活质量下降。[em22][em22][em22]

天蓝心淡 · 发表于 2007-3-19 10:05

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谎言444 · 发表于 2007-3-19 10:45

感谢的话大家已经替我说了，俺就再吃一回河豚。（转载，分享一下）<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">“<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">在赫德的理念中，有一种非常重要的精神。英文里有两个词，一个叫做<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">‘accountability’<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">，一个叫做<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">‘responsibility’<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">，这两个词翻译过来都叫责任，怎么分呢？前者叫做结果责任，就是你对一件事的结果、后果所负的责任；后者叫做工作责任，就是你直接负责做的事情。你的级别到某一个程度，你自己直接负责的工作责任没有那么多，但是却要承担结果责任，也就是要对一件事情的结果、后果负全部责任。这就是问责制。<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">”<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">孙振耀向记者解释说，赫德的理念是，结果责任要等于工作责任，越接近越好

醉花阴----家有小丢丢 · 发表于 2007-3-19 11:05

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用唐老鸭在2007-3-18 17:47:00的发言： 首先感谢业委会成员所付出的辛勤劳动。对于楼主的心情同为业主的我，可以理解，我也对破坏云顶的许多事实而胸闷，这里是云顶人的家，所以你有说想法提意见的权利，所以楼主大可不必以“拚死吃河豚＂的心态，这其实是对我们云顶和诣环境的又一种亵渎．如何将云顶变的更好，我们每个云顶人都有责任，业委会是我们大家选出来的，是我们的代表，是新形势下出现的缺乏法律和行政手段支持但又是我们业主所能依靠的组织，需要我们大家的支持，这种支持我想更多的应该体现在对于如何做好工作的建议和多给些鼓励上，而不是横加指责。</div>中肯！[em17][em23][em23][em23]

xiaomimi · 发表于 2007-3-19 11:28

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蓝蜻蜓 · 发表于 2007-3-19 12:41

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用谎言444在2007-3-19 10:45:00的发言： 感谢的话大家已经替我说了，俺就再吃一回河豚。（转载，分享一下）<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">“<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">在赫德的理念中，有一种非常重要的精神。英文里有两个词，一个叫做<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">‘accountability’<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">，一个叫做<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">‘responsibility’<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">，这两个词翻译过来都叫责任，怎么分呢？前者叫做结果责任，就是你对一件事的结果、后果所负的责任；后者叫做工作责任，就是你直接负责做的事情。你的级别到某一个程度，你自己直接负责的工作责任没有那么多，但是却要承担结果责任，也就是要对一件事情的结果、后果负全部责任。这就是问责制。<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">”<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">孙振耀向记者解释说，赫德的理念是，结果责任要等于工作责任，越接近越好</div>When you talk about 'accountability', you must first consider what they(Board of directors) are paid for, then, to see if what they did is worth the price. Now, since we have not paid them anything, we should feel nothing but being grateful that somebody is doing something that everyone of us should be doing. And at the same tiime, be ashamed of yourself that you see something you can do but not doing it. There are all kinds of names for people like you. One comes to mind is ' smart ass'. Everyone would appreciate it if you could not only talk the talk, but also walk the walk. By the way, that is also your responsibility.

xiaomimi · 发表于 2007-3-19 12:42

蓝G中午好

吴越清风 · 发表于 2007-3-19 12:55

星爷写得精彩！be ashamed of yourself that you see something you can do but not doing it.用中国话说就是“以子之矛，攻子之盾，何如？

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蓝蜻蜓 · 发表于 2007-3-19 13:12

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用xiaomimi在2007-3-19 12:42:00的发言： 蓝G中午好</div>笑MM 中午好[em02][em02][em02] 偶们已晚上10点多~~~该呼呼啦[em01][em01][em01]

蓝蜻蜓 · 发表于 2007-3-19 13:14

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用吴越清风在2007-3-19 12:55:00的发言： 用中国话说就是“以子之矛，攻子之盾，何如？ </div>吴越兄辛苦了[em25][em25][em25][em17][em17][em17]

房客甲 · 发表于 2007-3-19 13:23

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用蓝蜻蜓在2007-3-19 12:41:00的发言： When you talk about 'accountability', you must first consider what they(Board of directors) are paid for, then, to see if what they did is worth the price. Now, since we have not paid them anything, we should feel nothing but being grateful that somebody is doing something that everyone of us should be doing. And at the same tiime, be ashamed of yourself that you see something you can do but not doing it. There are all kinds of names for people like you. One comes to mind is ' smart ass'. Everyone would appreciate it if you could not only talk the talk, but also walk the walk. By the way, that is also your responsibility.</div>ＤＩＮＧ！Everyone would appreciate it if you could not only talk the talk, but also walk the walk. By the way, that is also your responsibility.

davidone · 发表于 2007-3-19 13:26

英文都界滚的

chestnut · 发表于 2007-3-19 13:27

One comes to mind is ' smart ass'. Everyone would appreciate it if you could not only talk the talk, but also walk the walk. By the way, that is also your responsibility.

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实事求是者 · 发表于 2007-3-19 13:29

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大岭人 · 发表于 2007-3-19 21:12

依据“谎言444”兄的主要观点，     ‘accountability’  、‘responsibility’，难以兼得啊——1. 业委会没有做“实际工作”  ——“业主委员会,你们真的应该为云顶做些实际工作了”        ——“影响大家生活的,危及云顶未来的问题你们解决了几个?”

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